That is the transcript of an interview hosted on Ruth’s Feel Better. Live Free. podcast.
Ruth Soukup: What if I instructed you that regardless of the way you’re feeling proper now or what well being points you is perhaps battling, there’s one mineral you would begin taking that might make you are feeling noticeably higher inside simply at some point. Sounds nearly too good to be true. Doesn’t it?
That’s what I assumed too, till I spent a while speaking to right now’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean.
Dr. Dean is among the nation’s foremost specialists in magnesium and the affect it may have in your well being. And I acquired to inform you what she has to share is fairly compelling. And the very best half is it’s fairly easy.
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Right this moment we’re going to be chatting with Dr. Carolyn Dean, who’s a doctor and naturopathic doctor. In addition to one of many nation’s main specialists in magnesium and the writer of the brand new ebook, Magnesium: The Missing Link to Total Health. And right now she’s sharing some particulars concerning the affect magnesium can have in your well being as together with why so many people are magnesium poor and the steps that you would be able to take to right away begin feeling higher.
Like I mentioned, it’s fairly compelling. So with out additional ado, I’m very excited to have the ability to introduce you to right now’s podcast visitor, Dr. Carolyn Dean. Carolyn, thanks a lot for being right here right now. I’m so excited to speak to you.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Thanks. Thanks, Ruth. I’ve been watching, not watching, listening to your podcast and also you’ve been interviewed fairly just a few instances by my good friend, Michael Sandler.
In order that was enjoyable. Nicely, anyway, I’m simply leaping in.
I’m a medical physician and a naturopath. However I feel I’m a naturopath at coronary heart. I did my medical coaching first and They didn’t dissuade me from wanting to assist folks with way of life and simply extra constructive pondering, non-drugs.
And that was again within the mid 70s after I went to med faculty. And there actually wasn’t that a lot details about options. There was no well being meals retailer. Within the metropolis the place I did my medical coaching, which was Halifax, Nova Scotia. So I wasn’t deterred by what I realized in med faculty, though it was all drug oriented and so they laughed at me trigger I made my very own yogurt and so they laughed at me after I was, puncturing an apple with acupuncture needles, as a result of that was my elective.
I discovered an anesthesiologist within the hospital, a Chinese language gentleman, who was doing an acupuncture clinic after hours. So he mentioned to me as soon as, yeah, you realize, I do all this medical stuff and type of, you realize, intrude with folks throughout the day, however then I make up for it after I do my acupuncture. So I had a whole lot of assist in staying with options after which in my follow, it was, as I mentioned, I follow as a medical physician, however principally doing naturopathic medication.
I sincerely thought by now, all medical doctors could be doing nutrient primarily based medication, however they sadly they went to the darkish facet. Significantly, much more.
Ruth: Nicely, it surprises me to speak to listen to you say you went to medical faculty within the seventies and it was already very a lot primarily based on medicine and prescriptions and simply not likely any options even again as a result of that’s—you realize, 70s weren’t that lately and but now you’re proper. It’s gotten full. It’s gotten fully worse and like actually dangerous.
Dr. Dean I bear in mind certainly one of my clinicians saying solely give a medicine so long as it takes the affected person to get again on their ft.
And now we’ve acquired these lifelong medicines for diabetes, for ldl cholesterol, for you title it. So it’s gone very medical and all of the unwanted effects from all these medication. I imply, there are tons of of them. And worst of all is in my world, as a result of I’m an knowledgeable on magnesium. They deplete magnesium.
A whole lot of these medication are simply in-built such a method. A whole lot of them have fluoride molecules hooked up to them to make them simpler to get throughout fats cell membranes. Our cell membranes are made from fats and these medication get by way of, however. Within the intestines, these medication will be damaged down by the intestinal micro organism and so they’ll launch this fluoride.
So then we’re poisoned and the fluoride it would bind I feel primarily to magnesium as a result of magnesium could be very reactive. I don’t know that for certain. There’s no research. Nobody’s taking a look at this. It’s my conjecture that when, as a result of chemically, magnesium will bind to fluoride, you get an MgF2, and that compound known as phthalate deposits in tendons and joints and ligaments.
And what’s the black field warning on ciprofloxacin, which is a fluoride drug? It’s tendon rupture. Folks will take, a whole lot of athletes will take Cipro. They’re giving it, Oh, I’ve acquired a chilly. I’ve acquired a recreation arising, you realize, give me a drug. They take Cipro and generally it’s on one, you realize, one prescription.
Generally it’s cumulative and so they find yourself with tendon rupture. And we see that. I imply, I’m certain you’ve had shoppers who’ve had tendon rupture and it may very well be from as A fluoride drug. So anyway, the medication usually are not good. Yeah. So what we do is attempt to use nutrient constructing blocks in order that the physique is robust in order that it may recuperate from sickness or damage.
I had a horrible fall just a few months in the past. I crashed on my elbow and my knee didn’t break a factor. I swelled. Folks thought photos of my arm or my leg as a result of it was so swollen. And also you recuperate. I’m 75. I ought to have damaged many bones. And it’s a testomony to how I dwell my life and my vitamins that I didn’t.
And that’s what I would like folks to be taught. That there are constructing blocks and so they’re the fundamentals. You realize, they’re your nutritional vitamins. A, B, C, D, E, what else? After which your minerals. And like I mentioned I’m I’m actually keen on magnesium. And what I’ve achieved with the mineral world is created a picometer sized, stabilized, ionic type, Of all of the minerals I work with in order that they’re instantly absorbed into the cells.
They don’t run out within the bowels or the urine. So the physique will get what it wants and it doesn’t need to be excessive dose. So that you get your magnesium, your calcium, in fact, however in our world, we’ve got an excessive amount of calcium. Girls are instructed to take calcium dietary supplements to guard their bones, however they’re not instructed about calcium.
Or about magnesium and boron and molybdenum, all of the totally different minerals that go to make the bone and collagen. And which means vitamin C. Entire meals, vitamin C and ascorbic acid. If you would like your ligaments and tissue in your physique generally, you want your collagen. I imply, as we age, what gravity does to us is magnified if we don’t have sufficient collagen.
So there’s all, they’re simply fundamental constructing blocks, however see what I’ve found is and I’ve written it on this ebook, I’ve 65 medical circumstances that may actually be magnesium deficiency. And if we don’t deal with them with magnesium, then we give medication after which the medication make us worse. So we’ve gotten into this horrible bind and proper now I’m not, as you’ve heard, I haven’t talked about any model names of my merchandise that the FDA received’t let me say that my formulation can assist folks deal with or forestall illness.
We rely on podcasts like yours for us to get the knowledge on the market for folks to know that. You realize, with magnesium deficiency, you possibly can have acid reflux disorder, you possibly can have Alzheimer’s and angina and atherosclerosis and anxiousness. I imply, take a look at the anxiousness in our world. Nervousness and panic assaults and even melancholy.
And I’ve heard your story. I do know what you’ve gone by way of. And if I may have solely had you and, you realize, soaked you in Epsom salt and gave you magnesium and, you realize, some B nutritional vitamins for certain, you’d have You realize, had an additional stage of coping so that you simply didn’t need to face what you face. So there are mind results with vitamins.
And as an alternative of giving the vitamins, the minerals and the, you realize, the straightforward nutritional vitamins and omega 3 fatty acids, and naturally, vitamin D. Then we’re confronted with signs that then we both take medication for, or we take an entire host of herbs and, you realize, no matter, ashwagandhi and herbs that, in the event that they’re not natural.
They’re not protected to take.
Ruth: Can I interrupt you for only a second and we will possibly again up a bit bit as a result of I really feel like we, we talked about a whole lot of issues unexpectedly. And I, so I’d like to interrupt it down just a bit extra methodically for people who find themselves listening, who for who that is like all model new info, proper?
So let’s similar to perceive and begin with a bit bit like, of like how, so that you went to medical faculty and also you have been curious about like pure various strategies from the very starting, or was there one thing that occurred in your personal, by way of your personal expertise that actually acquired you enthusiastic about type of following down this path?
As a result of it’s totally different than what they’re instructing in medical colleges. And apparently even again within the Nineteen Seventies, and in addition it’s totally different from the norms. So what was it that type of acquired you eager to even go down like a unique, take a unique strategy?
Dr. Dean I suppose I used to be simply curious after I was in my teenagers and my then boyfriend, now husband of 58 years, we started touring and from Dartmouth, Halifax, Nova Scotia, we ended up in California throughout the hippie days and we weren’t hippie, hippies, we weren’t druggies, however there was a diet revolution, Adele Davis, Pavarola, Jonathan Wright.
And so they had just a few books and the folks we have been staying with had a library. So I spent my time in that library and on the conventions with these authentic well being specialists. And so I simply caught the bug. And I realized as a lot as I may, however what occurred is after I tried to go on the knowledge, folks weren’t that .
So lastly, after I was in honors biology in college, some youngsters, younger boys, males I knew in my lessons, they simply acquired into medical faculty. So I mentioned, nicely, that’s for me. And I entered into the following semester. I simply occurred to have all of the conditions. So I went into medication with the thought that, hey, you realize, possibly folks received’t hearken to me if I’ve a medical diploma.
However as I already mentioned, you realize, that I imply, I used to be kind of castigated as a result of I spoke pure issues. I’d say, nicely, I simply learn this paper that breast milk is healthier than bottled milk. And the pediatrician who was lecturing up on the entrance of the room, he known as me bubbles. He mentioned, nicely, you realize, it’s possible you’ll suppose.
The science is behind us. So, you realize, there you go. So that you’ll like this Ruth. It’s not on level, however it was so patriarchal and misogynistic or no matter phrases you wish to say in med faculty. My class out of 100 was the primary class that had greater than 25 ladies, 33 ladies. So we took, in fact we took over the primary day of faculty, a clinician got here in and put up his slide.
It was a slide projector in the back of the theater and he was down entrance. The primary slide was a nude feminine slide. The second slide was a brand new feminine. The third slide was a nude feminine. In order that’s the way it was being taught. And no one knew one another within the class and other people, you realize, we have been type of. Trying round.
I did greater than appeared round. I went out and get a microbiology professor good friend of mine who had a depraved humorousness. And he was within the med faculty realm. And I acquired a playgirl journal. It was in all probability the primary version in 1975. And I took out the male nude photos and he made slides. So two days later, when Buddy got here again To proceed his superior lecture.
We had the nude male slides within the entrance of his deck by the second slide, he had grabbed his little briefcase and ran out. I heard later that from my microbiology good friend. In a single day, they took down each nude feminine image that was littered all through anatomy and biology.
They took every part down. In order that’s direct motion. That’s not standing on a picket line and whining and complaining. It’s doing one thing.
Ruth: So you’re a trailblazer. Yeah, you’re a trailblazer. I find it irresistible. Okay. So now let’s discuss a bit bit extra concerning the minerals and the nutritional vitamins and these items that proper.
The pharmaceutical firms don’t need us to speak about as a result of they need us to take the medicine. And now, such as you identified, they need us to be taking medicines for the remainder of our lives. They don’t, I imply, that’s the entire purpose, proper. Is to get us not simply taking the medication to take the medication for so long as they will probably get us to take them, ideally for all times.
Okay. As a result of that’s how they take advantage of cash, however you’re saying we really have to guarantee that we’re, if we simply can get the suitable nutritional vitamins and minerals to truly enable our physique to operate correctly. So what would you say are a number of the most necessary issues that girls over 40 have to be centered on?
And the way do you even know the place to start? Prefer it feels it’s, it may really feel so overwhelming. So how do you want, like, what are type of the fundamentals?
Dr. Dean We begin saying to folks, I’m, and I say, we, on my own and my customer support, and I’ve a radio present, on-line radio present each Monday. And the message we put out is the worst is over since you’re right here.
And what we begin with is magnesium and magnesium is critical for 80 % of recognized metabolic capabilities within the physique. All of the enzymes, every part from head to foot. Magnesium is critical to make muscular tissues and nerves work. And the way they do that could be a nerve cell or muscle cell will likely be opened up. The cell mineral ion channel will likely be opened as much as enable a bit little bit of calcium into the cell.
To permit it to fireplace off and create the motion potential. After which, so, when that’s taking place, the cell is closed down, after which magnesium opens the cell up. And the calcium comes out. In case you don’t have magnesium for this operate, the cells type of get floppy and the calcium simply drives itself in inflicting twitching and spasms and burning and irritation and tightness and mind fog, and we’ve got 600 muscular tissues.
We now have 45 miles of nerves. So any of that may be affected, you realize, the attention twitching that I used. I’m a magnesium deficiency individual, you realize, poster youngster. So I had the attention twitching and, you realize, swallowing issues, coronary heart palpitations, leg cramps, Charlie horse, stressed legs. Tight shoulders, insomnia, complications, all of these are signs of even migraines.
Fortuitously, I didn’t have migraines. So all these signs of the nerves and muscular tissues. And you then get to the metabolic enzymes that magnesium works with. And that might be the digestion. You understand how our insulin is delivered to assist the glucose get into cells. simply how ldl cholesterol is made. The gene statin, the ldl cholesterol suppressing medication, they work on the identical enzyme that magnesium balances.
So statins will kill this, they, HMG CoA reductase. It’ll kill it. Whereas magnesium, if the physique wants extra calcium, it would manipulate the enzyme. If it wants much less, sorry, ldl cholesterol. If it wants extra ldl cholesterol, it would manipulate the enzyme and vice versa. So we’ve acquired a method for the physique to do issues correctly.
So, and your subsequent query goes to be, nicely, why aren’t we getting sufficient magnesium? We don’t get it in our meals anymore. It’s been farmed out of the soil and it’s very costly to, to place all of the minerals again within the soil. So I’m, you realize, a whole lot of my focus outdoors my on-line dietary complement firm.
It’s a biodynamic natural farm. I put every part into this farm. And if I attempt to eat fully off the farm with rooster eggs and all of the greens and fruits, I get all my magnesium deficiency signs again. I’ve been at conferences the place vegans and vegetarians will come as much as me after my magnesium lecture and say, nicely, I’ve twitching and this and that, however I’m ingesting 30 to 40 ounces of inexperienced drink a day.
I must be getting sufficient magnesium. And I say, nicely, clearly you’re not. After which they take my liquid magnesium and Significantly, they arrive again the following day and so they say, I really feel so a lot better. As a result of they’re principally very wholesome, as a result of they’re not consuming, you realize, in all probability not consuming the seed oils, not consuming straight sugars, and all the remainder of it which can be dangerous for us.
And the magnesium they have been lacking once they take it, it’s like, Oh, okay, my cells actually like that. And you may be doing all the suitable issues and consuming all the suitable meals and consuming very well. However what you’re saying is you’re nonetheless not getting the correct amount of magnesium as a result of it doesn’t exist in the best way that our meals is produced and manufactured and raised and grown anymore.
Ruth: So how are you aware, is principally everyone magnesium poor? I imply, is that simply type of throughout the board? After which how are you aware how a lot magnesium you have to be taking?
Dr. Dean: This will get into the issue of magnesium compounds versus stabilize the ion of magnesium. However I all the time say that any quantity of magnesium even the worst absorbed like magnesium oxide is a straight on laxative as a result of solely 4 % of it’s absorbed.
However folks really feel higher once they take it. Research have proven that magnesium oxide helps folks. So you probably have any magnesium in your cupboard, you realize, begin taking a bit little bit of it. However when you take an excessive amount of of it, it’ll provide the laxative impact. And a whole lot of medical doctors would say nicely, when you get the laxative impact, then that’s sufficient, your physique has absorbed sufficient.
That’s not the case. It’s simply acquired run proper by way of your physique and grow to be a laxative and that was my downside really. When Random Home requested me to jot down my Miracle of Magnesium ebook again in 1999, I ran, I noticed my signs within the analysis I used to be doing. I ran out and acquired a bottle of magnesium as a result of I needed greater than was in my a number of and I instantly acquired the laxative impact with 50 milligrams.
So I needed to go on a ten 12 months search for an organization and eventually, I discovered a chemist who would make a non laxative stabilized ion of magnesium. And it’s the one one which’s accessible. And so it’s my mission to let folks find out about this, however like I mentioned, any magnesium, it’s going to assist. However when you’re on a half a dozen medication and feeling all of the signs head to foot, you want extra magnesium.
That’s not going to make the laxative impact magnesium compounds. After they get into the bloodstream, they are going to disassociate. It’s known as. into the 2 components, magnesium and the citrus citric acid, the magnesium and chloride, magnesium and the glycine. And it’s solely separated for a cut up second. And it’s solely in that cut up second the place the ion of magnesium will soar right into a cell.
And do its work, however you realize, there are trillions of nicely tens of trillions of cells in our physique, so You realize, there’s all the time one thing taking place however we’ve got gotten to the purpose now with our Continual PTSD as a rustic as a world. The horrible eating regimen that individuals are consuming the huge stress The shortage of minerals in our water that we’ve got to complement.
And what I’ve begun, nicely, it’s been years, however I’ve talked about whole physique meltdown that’s taking place in people the place the thyroid is affected and weakened, particularly in ladies after getting pregnant and childbirth, the thyroid could be very a lot. depleted. And what allopathic medication and various medication each do is that they wait until the thyroid is completely tanked and so they give thyroid hormone alternative.
I used to be on armor thyroid and after I made my magnesium product, I made a a number of mineral with all of the stabilized ions. And within the analysis and all I discovered 9 minerals that assist thyroid hormone manufacturing. 9 minerals. So I put it in amongst a complete of 12 minerals. Six weeks into taking my very own method and we have been testing it out.
My arms and ft acquired heat and I used to be extra hyper than regular. So I noticed, oh my gosh, my thyroid is kicked in. So I finished my arm or thyroid. Now, that is what the FDA doesn’t like to listen to. And I can inform you 1000’s of individuals since then have been capable of get their thyroid hormone again. And we’ve got to warn folks while you take this a number of mineral, you realize, bear in mind that your physique could not want.
As a lot or could not want the thyroid hormone anymore. And that’s fairly highly effective. If you consider the constructing blocks which can be essential, the adrenal glands, they depend upon sodium. And what are we telling folks? Don’t eat salt, depend upon the B nutritional vitamins, and so they’re not in our meals provide both, and vitamin C and magnesium.
Easy constructing blocks. And there’s potassium in there as nicely. Potassium is necessary. Really with magnesium normally, they assist the absorption of one another. So then you’ve the intercourse hormones, you realize, when the thyroid is weakened it drags the adrenals and vice versa. After which it, there’s a drag on the intercourse hormones.
perimenopause. I don’t suppose it’s regular. It’s simply been a reputation that’s been given to ladies who I feel have whole physique meltdown and so they’re simply dragging on their thyroid and their adrenals and simply feeling horrible. Yeah. However this, the boron. There’s an entire record of issues. Fundamental minerals that the intercourse hormones bend on in addition to ldl cholesterol.
Ruth: So, so how does, so magnesium, you’re saying it impacts ldl cholesterol as nicely?
Dr. Dean: Completely. So the various kinds of magnesium, that is fascinating to me. So are what, which is the kind of magnesium that folks must be taking if the magnesium is inflicting sub deficiency? Yeah. Sure. So. The advertising of magnesium prior to now, you realize, 10, what’s it, 15, 20 years?
I feel a whole lot of it’s primarily based on my ebook, the Magnesium Miracle. It’s not this ebook, this can be a shorter type and an replace of all issues magnesium. However when you take a look at the advertising of a whole lot of these magnesium compounds, they’ll reference my ebook or me. And what they’ve tried to do is say. Oh, you realize, MagniTML308.
On the entrance of the label 2000 milligrams and also you suppose, Oh, my gosh, 2000 milligrams of magnesium. I’m all set. Flip the label round. Oh, I’ve to take three capsules with a view to get solely 144 milligrams. Oh, my gosh. In order that’s type of promoting. And Then they do the magnesium L3 in a folks. They did a examine on rats and mentioned it was 7 % extra absorbed into the mind than a magnesium citrate primarily based on 7%.
They’ve satisfied the general public that they’re the one magnesium that may get into the mind. Any magnesium in its ionic state, you realize, after I get it disassociated, it would pop into the mind. So that they’ve actually, you realize, and it’s an costly product as nicely. They’ve actually achieved a disservice to the general public.
It’s closely marketed. It’s it’s comes out of China. We don’t know what’s happening with it. And in some situations, they attempt to say that threonate is like threonine, which is a an amino acid that’s good for the mind, however it’s a threonate, which is a spinoff of vitamin C. So it has nothing to do with something.
And the advertising of all of the others. Oh, nicely, you will get a magnesium malate and that’ll assist when you’ve acquired fibromyalgia and the tour a magnesium tour. It is going to assist the guts and this the glycine and glycine magnesium glycinate will do assist the intestine. But when it’s a magnesium deficiency that you simply wish to deal with, you need the magnesium.
You don’t need the taurate or the malate. And that’s why I’ve the stabilized magnesium ion, 300 milligrams per dose, straight magnesium. Whereas you are taking A 500 milligram capsule of a magnesium compound. The magnesium half is 50 to 75 milligrams and the remaining is the add on. All the opposite stuff.
Ruth: So, however what you actually have to be centered on. So, I imply, that is all like very technical stuff that we’re speaking about and it’s straightforward to get overwhelmed with all of it. So, how do you strategy this when you’re simply eager to. Enhance your well being, proper? How do you strategy this in a method that makes it actually easy to know, okay, right here’s precisely what I have to do, proper?
Simply give me, I hear this from my shoppers on a regular basis. Like, ah, I like listening to about all these items, however then I get overwhelmed and I don’t know the best way to implement it. So how do I’m going, like, what do I do? Simply inform me what to do step-by-step. So what are the steps? Let’s give like three steps.
Dr. Dean: Primary, get hydrated.
Okay. You want water and also you want sea salt in that water. So you are taking your physique’s weight in kilos, divide that in half, drink that many ounces of water per day. After which every quarter liter put And I’m going so as to add 1 / 4 teaspoon of sea salt. Good sea salt means one thing that has colour in it.
If it’s a white sea salt, it’s been too refined. However you don’t begin with 1 / 4 teaspoon. Simply begin with a pinch. And also you’ll get, it’ll style candy to you. It’ll style so a lot better than. Then water out of the faucet and water out of the faucet. It’s been filtered. It’s been chlorinated, possibly Florida.
Florida. So we do need you to have non chlorine, non fluoride waters as a lot as doable. So you set within the sea salt, primary, hydration with sea salt. And quantity two, simply begin taking some magnesium. Like I mentioned, everyone’s acquired magnesium of their cabinet. I assure you, however you’ve in all probability put it apart due to the laxative impact.
If it’s a powder, put it in, in your sea salt water. After which sip that by way of the day so that you simply’re not simply taking one, one harsh dose like that may overwhelm your self and land in your gut. That’s a laxative of the liquid powders, even capsules, Ruth, folks may take a magnesium capsule. and put that in water and attempt to dissolve it and drink that by way of the day.
I do know there’ll be binders and fillers in there, however you’re swallowing it anyway. And the third factor could be to get a hold of my book. It’s a really it’s an easy to learn, overview of magnesium, which is critical for 80 % of recognized metabolic capabilities. After which on the finish of it, it’s possible you’ll determine that, nicely, possibly I ought to do this.
And as soon as folks strive my Pico meter magnesium, they don’t look again. And that’s what you need from vitamins. You wish to really feel them work. My a number of minerals introduced my thyroid again and did an entire bunch of different issues. And my magnesium, it took away my coronary heart palpitations and a dozen different signs. So, it’s And what’s it?
The proof is within the pudding. Yeah. Nicely, I imply, that makes it really feel quite a bit easier and positively much more doable. Eat the water, add the salt, which is in, which is completely reverse of what folks inform us. Then take the magnesium, no matter magnesium you’ve, simply. Begin taking extra magnesium and getting extra magnesium.
Ruth: It’s very fascinating. I haven’t heard that prefer to unfold it all through the day and be ingesting it all through the day. So I actually like that. After which positively try your ebook. We’ll be sure that so as to add the hyperlink to your ebook in our present notes. So when you’re listening to this, then you possibly can simply try the present notes and we will, and yow will discover the ebook and to learn extra Carolyn, thanks a lot.
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